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Kamala Harris did an interview on the popular podcast “Call Her Daddy” for an episode released over the weekend. The podcast, led by host Alex Cooper, is known to be particularly popular with young women.

The interview was part of the Democratic presidential campaign's ongoing strategy of using sessions with non-traditional media sources to spread its messages to targeted audiences. Harris recently gave an interview on “All the Smoke,” a sports podcast known for its popularity among men of color. On Tuesday, she will be interviewed by Howard Stern, a longtime shock jock with a large male audience.

The podcast, led by host Alex Cooper, is known to be particularly popular with young women.

Trump has also embarked on a tour of non-traditional media, although his podcast-heavy schedule seemed almost entirely focused on bolstering his support among men (albeit in a rather childish way). Harris' “Call Her Daddy” interview was the opposite of that.

While Trump and his movement embraced 19th- and 20th-century chauvinism and obsessed with “tradwives”—women defined by their roles as housewives and caretakers—the Democratic candidate spoke to the podcast's massive female audience and encouraged it to do so define themselves.

Harris said her mother taught her and her sister “the importance of being able to express how we feel,” that they “have the freedom to choose” how their lives turn out, and that they should “figure out how to accept it.” Charge of a moment.”

When Cooper asked Harris about Trump's thinly veiled sexist attacks in which he called her “crazy, weak, wrong and stupid,” the vice president replied, “I think it's really important not to let other people define you.”

At some point, the conversation shifted to the crisis of domestic and sexual violence against women. Cooper said many of her listeners described the shame and horror they feel when coming forward, but Harris – a former prosecutor – told listeners not to “suffer in silence” and advised them to “tell someone.” “that you trust”.

And when Cooper asked how we can make the country safer for women, Harris effectively explained the role of women's economic independence. She said:

If a woman – and especially if she has children – is economically dependent on her abuser, she is less likely to leave him. Because most women endure whatever personal, physical pain they have to endure to ensure their children have a roof over their heads or food. So we know that women are capable of escaping abuse – and there are many layers to her being able to do that – but one of them is: Does she have the economic freedom to do so? Right? So we know that one of the ways we can improve women's ability to make decisions is by strengthening their economic health and well-being.

This narrative about women's economic empowerment is at odds with the Republican Party's attack on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives that can support women in the workplace.

Harris also spoke about the impact of abortion bans, describing the harrowing reality of women being forced to leave the state to receive reproductive care — assuming they even have the money and resources to do so.

And she attacked conservatives' arcane views of women when asked to address Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders' claim that Harris has “nothing to keep her humble” because she has no biological children. (The vice president, of course, has two stepchildren.)

“I don’t think she understands that there are a lot of women out here who don’t strive to be modest,” Harris said of Sanders. “Secondly, there are a whole lot of women out here who have a lot of love in their lives, a family in their life and children in their lives, and I think it's really important for women to encourage each other.”

The interview was essentially a message to young women that they don't have to accept the MAGA movement's restrictive roles for them — and that the Harris campaign is supporting them to live more empowered lives.

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